Comments on: Art Boom or Art Gloom: Art Market Reporters Indecisive – artmarketblog.com http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/ Art Market Analysis by Nic Forrest Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Penelope Trotter http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1485 Penelope Trotter Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:47:07 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1485 I read your defending the art market blog and yes I agree about the good artists being immune to art market gyrations. I am inspired by the conceptual and political art strain that began in the seventies originally as a protest against the commodification of art and the power that dealers and the like have over the concepts that artists use as a result of this. I think it is funny that I have ended up reading this blog because all of the art market gyrations etc. are completely alien to artists such as myself. I do respect that fellow artists need money however so I hope you can only read my input as one opinion and also as humor. If it weren't for Marcel Duchamp's antics we probably wouldn't be able to sell our wit. The other hope that I have is that at the end of the day, artists can chase up all of the royalties that they deserve. Cheers. I read your defending the art market blog and yes I agree about the good artists being immune to art market gyrations. I am inspired by the conceptual and political art strain that began in the seventies originally as a protest against the commodification of art and the power that dealers and the like have over the concepts that artists use as a result of this. I think it is funny that I have ended up reading this blog because all of the art market gyrations etc. are completely alien to artists such as myself. I do respect that fellow artists need money however so I hope you can only read my input as one opinion and also as humor. If it weren’t for Marcel Duchamp’s antics we probably wouldn’t be able to sell our wit. The other hope that I have is that at the end of the day, artists can chase up all of the royalties that they deserve. Cheers.

]]> By: Penelope Trotter http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1484 Penelope Trotter Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:47:12 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1484 Am I in trouble? I'm just an artist and from my perspective the market seems more like a game of Roulette than anything else - and probably really detached from the 'true' artist's original intentions. At the end of the day, people will still buy stuff if they like it. If they are buying because they are worried about what a newspaper says then maybe they should reconsider what art really means to them. It would be very be sad if this was the case. P.S. I like how the Crayola guy won your prize because its funny and its good - this is what it should be about, supporting good concepts and talent in art...yeah! Am I in trouble? I’m just an artist and from my perspective the market seems more like a game of Roulette than anything else – and probably really detached from the ‘true’ artist’s original intentions. At the end of the day, people will still buy stuff if they like it. If they are buying because they are worried about what a newspaper says then maybe they should reconsider what art really means to them. It would be very be sad if this was the case.

P.S. I like how the Crayola guy won your prize because its funny and its good – this is what it should be about, supporting good concepts and talent in art…yeah!

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]]> By: artforprofits http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1482 artforprofits Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:05:03 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1482 Thanks for the comments, I appreciate every one's point of view. I believe that the issue of incorrect analysis and reporting of the art market is a big problem that needs to be addressed. I just hope that there are enough people out there who are not influenced by what the media say to ensure that the truth is told Nicholas Forrest artmarketblog.com Thanks for the comments, I appreciate every one’s point of view. I believe that the issue of incorrect analysis and reporting of the art market is a big problem that needs to be addressed. I just hope that there are enough people out there who are not influenced by what the media say to ensure that the truth is told

Nicholas Forrest
artmarketblog.com

]]> By: Penelope Trotter http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1481 Penelope Trotter Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:49:33 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1481 How can you put a market value on art? I mean really, that defeats the whole purpose since Marcel Duchamp doesn't it? Maybe we should all have another go at Monte Carlo Bond. check it : http://cybermuse.gallery.ca/cybermuse/servlet/imageserver?src=WI71178&ext=x.jpg http://www.moma.org/images/collection/FullSizes/82593003.jpg How can you put a market value on art? I mean really, that defeats the whole purpose since Marcel Duchamp doesn’t it? Maybe we should all have another go at Monte Carlo Bond.

check it :

http://cybermuse.gallery.ca/cybermuse/servlet/imageserver?src=WI71178&ext=x.jpg

http://www.moma.org/images/collection/FullSizes/82593003.jpg

]]> By: Claude DAMIEN http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1480 Claude DAMIEN Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:52:48 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1480 Forgive me my English which do not have very good, I am entirely of agreement with you. The problem is not that Australian, I live in Belgium, capital of Eurropéenne Union and I am artist plastics technician. I have the same observation in Europe. The sensassionalism makes receipt in the contemporary art and the art critic considers that art is very well. However, in Europe to be made recognize and like the artists the critics and journalists of arts must fight. I post my nonconformism and I criticize much the classic art that many artists without talents misuse in order to sell. However, it make criticize only the specialists in art; the system of the galleries is a problem too. Because, the galleries do not seek any more of the new talents but many artists who copy paintings and styles of arts which likes the ignorant public. Forgive me my English which do not have very good, I am entirely of agreement with you. The problem is not that Australian, I live in Belgium, capital of Eurropéenne Union and I am artist plastics technician. I have the same observation in Europe. The sensassionalism makes receipt in the contemporary art and the art critic considers that art is very well. However, in Europe to be made recognize and like the artists the critics and journalists of arts must fight. I post my nonconformism and I criticize much the classic art that many artists without talents misuse in order to sell.
However, it make criticize only the specialists in art; the system of the galleries is a problem too. Because, the galleries do not seek any more of the new talents but many artists who copy paintings and styles of arts which likes the ignorant public.

]]> By: Eloise O'Hare http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1479 Eloise O'Hare Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:29:52 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1479 Who are these investors I have an artist for over 20 years I have never met an investor in my life. People buy art because they are mates with the artist or they love the work. Mostly family who don't want the artist member of the family to die of stavation. I am amazed by this literal mythical fantasy. If the mineral miners are buying art. I would rather the minerals stay in the ground and the beauty of Australia stay intact. Far better to have a beautiful landscape of plants and trees to paint, then a devestated landscape of where the miners have been. It seems to me that Australia is digging a hole that won't be able to get of in a few years time. Who are these investors I have an artist for over 20 years I have never met an investor in my life. People buy art because they are mates with the artist or they love the work. Mostly family who don’t want the artist member of the family to die of stavation. I am amazed by this literal mythical fantasy. If the mineral miners are buying art. I would rather the minerals stay in the ground and the beauty of Australia stay intact. Far better to have a beautiful landscape of plants and trees to paint, then a devestated landscape of where the miners have been. It seems to me that Australia is digging a hole that won’t be able to get of in a few years time.

]]> By: Linda Armstrong http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/09/04/art-boom-or-art-gloom-art-market-reporters-indecisive-artmarketblogcom/#comment-1478 Linda Armstrong Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:27:35 +0000 http://artforprofits.wordpress.com/?p=742#comment-1478 You are quite right, and you are also part of the solution to the problem. Effective bloggers like you are having a tremendous positive effect on journalism worldwide. Keep up the good work. You are quite right, and you are also part of the solution to the problem. Effective bloggers like you are having a tremendous positive effect on journalism worldwide. Keep up the good work.

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