Art Fraud Open Forum – artmarketblog.com

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Art Fraud Open Forum – artmarketblog.com

Art Fraud Open Forum artmarketblog.comArt fraud is still a very taboo subject within the art market with a large majority of people more happy to ignore what is going on than have their name associated with anything even remotely related to fake artworks or fraudulant activities. Because of the unwillingness of art dealers and art market professionals to report fake artworks the number of works on the market that are either questionable or just plain fake continues to rise. Current estimates suggest that between 10% and 40% of works on the market are fakes which, when you think about it, is a really huge number. For quite a while now I have been trying to come up with a way of helping to combat art fraud but have yet to come up with something that is viable. The ideal project would be an online register or fake artworks but there are legal issues relating to defamation which could arise if an artwork was to be put on the register that was not fake or fraudulent. Because art fraud is such a huge issue I thought that I would open a discussion to discuss possible ways of helping to combat art fraud. If you have any thoughts or suggestions it would be great if you could leave a comment below and help take a stand against this major problem. If you don’t want to be identifiable then leave an anonymous comment but please don’t be too scared or shy to give your point of view.

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Art Fraud Open Forum artmarketblog.com**Nicholas Forrest is an art market analyst, art critic and journalist based in Sydney, Australia. He is the founder of http://www.artmarketblog.comt Art Fraud Open Forum artmarketblog.com, writes the art column for the magazine Antiques and Collectibles for Pleasure and Profit and contributes to many other publications

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  • Caroline

    You never cease to amaze me with the excellent information you provide. thank you for a fantastic and informative blog

  • ANONYMOUS

    There are a number of artists that use giclees as a means of transfering photographs into oil on canvas. This photomechanical method of doing so is virtually undetectable to the human eye if the pixel count is high enough. One fairly well known russian does this and sells his work for over $25-35,000 as original oil paintings without clients and many galleries knowing the difference. The works actually have a value of a couple of hundred dollars. Beware of artists that own very expensive cameras and have access to the process.

  • http://www.artmarketblog.com artforprofits

    Thanks anonymous, great information. Keep it coming!!

  • http://porno-5x.blogspot.com Aaron

    This is somthing I have been looking for a long time. Thanks!!!

  • http://www.internationalartscontacts.com/xing IAC

    Dear All. Our Group International Arts Contacts has started an inportant topis regarding art fraud. Briefly we want to warn you about http://www.artbusiness.com.br and Ms Cammile Logo Clein.
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  • http://fine-art-source.com Chris

    There is a big problem with prints too, even the experts are getting screwed. I also read “Dali and I” claims Dali was a fraud himself. I ran into a site that also covers art fraud at http://www.art-fraud.ORG which covers more of the art fraud in the print world. many people going to jail over this.

  • http://www.artmarketblog.com artforprofits

    Thanks Chris, looks like a great site. Fraudulent Dali prints are a big problem in the market so thanks for pointing this out.

    Nicholas Forrest
    artmarketblog.com

  • Seewhy

    I’m from China, in our market, the experts works in university or some art associations or even in auction companies. Their stand and work status is ambiguous, which sometimes encourages the art fraud.
    My idea (a little unrealistic) is to setup a third-party system like the auditing in the financial market to offer reports to public. And using high-tech like bar code on the artwork and then register. But, yes, difficult, long way to go.

    Thanks.
    P.S. I like this web very much.

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  • http://artabase.net Rebecca

    Hi Seewhy

    I think your idea for a third party registering the artworks is a great idea. However you couldn’t stick a bar code on most works of art as it would affect them too much.

  • pro

    Norval Morrisseau? need I say more.

  • http://www.artmarketblog.com artforprofits

    Hi pro,

    Are you suggesting that Norval Morrisseau produces forgeries because he uses Canadian Aboriginal imagery?

    Nick

  • pro

    Hey Nick
    my point was that Morrisseau’s work has been copied so often, that there are more fakes than authentic works in the market.
    most of the stuff being offered are cheap knock offs.
    the controversy of Morrisseau will end up being Canada’s largest art fraud case, one which should hit the news over the next 12-18 months.
    there are a few good Morrisseau blogs out there.
    The one that will give you a good scope of things appears to be.
    http://www.morrisseau.com
    check it out.
    This guy worked with Morrisseau, so his word is good?

  • http://www.artmarketblog.com artforprofits

    Thanks for the clarification pro. It is a shame when the talents of a particular artist are taken advantage of to the point where the market for an artist’s work suffers. At least someone is trying to sort of the problems with Morrisseau’s work.

    Nick

  • http://cityofdeception.com Rose Long

    I think a registry of SUSPECTED fakes should be fine and pass legal muster. There’s certainly no law against people saying they suspect they were taken in by so and so. And you as the publisher of the web site really should have no responsibility for what others post.

    I was taken in recently by a woman named Rose Long (generic enough as not to be identifiable). I would have loved if there had been somewhere I could go to have gotten information on her before I bought. Even just to hear other buyer’s comments would have been helpful. You know, like Amazon customer reviews. I’ve posted my scam story at http://cityofdeception.com, but I’d love a place to put this info where others would really see it.

    • A. Bishop

      Send your story with the copy of the certificate from the frame shop to the Memphis paper. Did you receive in writing what the true value was from the appraiser? You need that. You can send that to Memphis as well. Present you documented information to the New York Times, as they should check it out by contacting her with all your information. Perhaps the Memphis paper will contact her as well. Perhaps ABC’s Brian Ross and investigative reporter would be interested in your experience.

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  • http://sylvie.polite@gmail.com Silapolxxzz

    Hello !

    I’m new on this forum so I introduce me…

    My name is Jason I’m 23 years old, I’m Belgian.

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    Nice to meet you

  • http://www.fakeartonline.com FAO

    Just curious to know if you or anyone you know has bought something questionable on the internet. Or just to share your thoughts about fake art. It would be cool to hear about it.

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