Comments on: Art Market Blog – Comparing the Art and Wine Markets http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/ Art Market Analysis by Nic Forrest Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Erik http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-943 Erik Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:24:22 +0000 http://artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-943 I agree totally and i don't thinks this works only for wine or art. this works for almost any product. art, wine, food, shoes, computers etc. I agree totally and i don’t thinks this works only for wine or art. this works for almost any product. art, wine, food, shoes, computers etc.

]]> By: Wine Artist - Market Blog Comparing the Art and Wine Markets | Artist Days http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-942 Wine Artist - Market Blog Comparing the Art and Wine Markets | Artist Days Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:42:17 +0000 http://artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-942 [...] Art Market Blog - Comparing the Art and Wine Markets « Art Market Blog with… Recent Readers Powered by Blog Catalog Art Market Blog - Comparing the Art and Wine Markets Posted on January 17, 2008 by artforprofits Art Market Blog - Comparing the Art and Wine Markets The California Institute of Technology recently released the results of a study that they conducted into the effects of price on people s perception of the quality and taste of a bottle of wine. In a follow-up experiment,… [...] [...] Art Market Blog – Comparing the Art and Wine Markets « Art Market Blog with… Recent Readers Powered by Blog Catalog Art Market Blog – Comparing the Art and Wine Markets Posted on January 17, 2008 by artforprofits Art Market Blog – Comparing the Art and Wine Markets The California Institute of Technology recently released the results of a study that they conducted into the effects of price on people s perception of the quality and taste of a bottle of wine. In a follow-up experiment,… [...]

]]> By: bluerabbit http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-941 bluerabbit Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:51:53 +0000 http://artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-941 Yes, I agree. As an artist, I have long struggled with pricing. I am also a freelance writer. When I work for a client, we agree on how much I will be paid before I begin the job. There is an established price range for a certain type of work, and I do not delude myself by thinking that I am the only one with the necessary skills required. My paintings are different. I do them as part of a personal need, a spiritual journey. Before I started painting, I was starved for silence. How do you charge for that? I was very grateful for the services of dealers when I was living in Los Angeles. Now I live in a small Colorado city.I am much happier and a much better painter, but there are no appropriate dealers nearby. I decided to raise the prices for my originals substantially because, if I sold a picture for a few hundred dollars, it would take some of my writing time to stretch it and take it to the shipper. I would have shipping costs. Then, I would not have an irreplaceable part of my life anymore. What is that worth? Well, I asked myself, which would be worse, to sell the picture for too little or not to sell it at all. I decided that, for now, it would be better not to sell it at all. That's what value is, really. Would my pictures be worth what I am charging to others? Art is such a matter of personal taste. What one person adores, another sees as kitch. I think that the real value of a piece of art lies in what it says to you. When I first started painting, I sold an acrylic of an ice cream shop on Stearn's Wharf in Santa Barbara to a woman I met in a group. She paid me a $100, but, for her, that was a fortune. I asked her why she wanted it. She said she was diabetic and could not eat ice cream. Another one of my early paintings was a gift to a friend, the wife of a director. It is one of the reasons I paint. The picture showed two women on the beach. One was lying in the sand and the other had been, but was starting to stand up. I did it from a little sketch. She was dying of cancer. She told me that, as she looked at that picture, she saw a person rising and stepping away... Yes, I agree. As an artist, I have long struggled with pricing. I am also a freelance writer. When I work for a client, we agree on how much I will be paid before I begin the job. There is an established price range for a certain type of work, and I do not delude myself by thinking that I am the only one with the necessary skills required.
My paintings are different. I do them as part of a personal need, a spiritual journey. Before I started painting, I was starved for silence.
How do you charge for that? I was very grateful for the services of dealers when I was living in Los Angeles. Now I live in a small Colorado city.I am much happier and a much better painter, but there are no appropriate dealers nearby. I decided to raise the prices for my originals substantially because, if I sold a picture for a few hundred dollars, it would take some of my writing time to stretch it and take it to the shipper. I would have shipping costs. Then, I would not have an irreplaceable part of my life anymore. What is that worth? Well, I asked myself, which would be worse, to sell the picture for too little or not to sell it at all. I decided that, for now, it would be better not to sell it at all. That’s what value is, really. Would my pictures be worth what I am charging to others? Art is such a matter of personal taste. What one person adores, another sees as kitch. I think that the real value of a piece of art lies in what it says to you. When I first started painting, I sold an acrylic of an ice cream shop on Stearn’s Wharf in Santa Barbara to a woman I met in a group. She paid me a $100, but, for her, that was a fortune. I asked her why she wanted it. She said she was diabetic and could not eat ice cream. Another one of my early paintings was a gift to a friend, the wife of a director. It is one of the reasons I paint. The picture showed two women on the beach. One was lying in the sand and the other had been, but was starting to stand up. I did it from a little sketch. She was dying of cancer. She told me that, as she looked at that picture, she saw a person rising and stepping away…

]]> By: bluerabbit http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-940 bluerabbit Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:33:00 +0000 http://artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-940 Thank you so much for this tremendous resource! I belong to Redbubble and have just joined Artmesh. I can attest to the tremendous creative energy and the level of talent on both sites. I plan to check out the others, as well. I have also had excellent experiences with AbsoluteArts/Worldwide Art Resources. I have been with them for several years. Thank you so much for this tremendous resource! I belong to Redbubble and have just joined Artmesh. I can attest to the tremendous creative energy and the level of talent on both sites. I plan to check out the others, as well. I have also had excellent experiences with AbsoluteArts/Worldwide Art Resources. I have been with them for several years.

]]> By: saul http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-939 saul Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:25:16 +0000 http://artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-939 Thanks for the story, nick. It is a perfect illustration of people's insecurity and mistrust of their own taste when faced with a competing opinion from an "authority figure", in this case the anonymous force that figures out what a wine should cost. that flock mentality goes far in explaining the big discrepancy between an artist's reputation during his lifetime, and generations after his death. remember, rembrandt, vermeer, cezanne, van gogh, zubaran, rothko, gorky, cornell all died in varying degrees of obscurity/ penury/ underrecognization. and who, now, even remembers the british and french academics, at all? they were the koons/warhol/hirst's of their day. Thanks for the story, nick. It is a perfect illustration of people’s insecurity and mistrust of their own taste when faced with a competing opinion from an “authority figure”, in this case the anonymous force that figures out what a wine should cost.
that flock mentality goes far in explaining the big discrepancy between an artist’s reputation during his lifetime, and generations after his death. remember, rembrandt, vermeer, cezanne, van gogh, zubaran, rothko, gorky, cornell all died in varying degrees of obscurity/ penury/ underrecognization. and who, now, even remembers the british and french academics, at all? they were the koons/warhol/hirst’s of their day.

]]> By: Debra Bretton Robinson http://www.artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-938 Debra Bretton Robinson Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:39:14 +0000 http://artmarketblog.com/2008/01/17/art-market-blog-comparing-the-art-and-wine-markets/#comment-938 A gallery owner in Boston told me once, "if you have a history of selling your work in the price tag you want to put on a piece, then you can put that price on it." I never sold a thing at that gallery. Personally, I think my prices were too low and viewers didn't value my work enough to want to buy anything. Over the years, I have had to raise my prices on my own to keep up with my experience level and inflation. Sometimes I find myself at an Open Studio and everyone there tells me that no one ever buys something over a certain price. If someone actually did sell a piece at the "top", they were the talk of the art community! So unfortunately, I have reduced my regular prices and do what "the proverbial romans do" while I am there just to make sales. I am also constantly kicking my friend Noredin Morgan to raise his prices because we often show our work together. If his prices are very much under mine, either our viewers won't take us seriously or they might buy some of his work just because it looks like such a bargain compared to mine! Pricing work is never an easy process. A gallery owner in Boston told me once, “if you have a history of selling your work in the price tag you want to put on a piece, then you can put that price on it.” I never sold a thing at that gallery. Personally, I think my prices were too low and viewers didn’t value my work enough to want to buy anything. Over the years, I have had to raise my prices on my own to keep up with my experience level and inflation. Sometimes I find myself at an Open Studio and everyone there tells me that no one ever buys something over a certain price. If someone actually did sell a piece at the “top”, they were the talk of the art community! So unfortunately, I have reduced my regular prices and do what “the proverbial romans do” while I am there just to make sales. I am also constantly kicking my friend Noredin Morgan to raise his prices because we often show our work together. If his prices are very much under mine, either our viewers won’t take us seriously or they might buy some of his work just because it looks like such a bargain compared to mine! Pricing work is never an easy process.

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